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Stove Collar Is Poorly Designed, But Still Worth the $
The kits I ordered in March finally arrived today. When I questioned why my credit card was charged immediately since they were on back order, I was told that unlike other vendors they are incapable of billing upon shipment and the only alternative to paying months in advance was to cancel and reorder (at the now higher price). Inspection revealed all the parts are enclosed and in good condition. As others have stated step 1 on Page 6 of the installation instructions reads “The smooth end of the stovepipe fits over the stove flue collar. Secure with three (3) sheet metal screws and seal with stove cement.” Be sure the first section has no crimped ends because the collar is way too small to jury rig it as some have suggested. Otherwise all your stove pipe will be upside down.
Good price and Quality
Received in good condition with all part and hardware. Some assembly was required as expected... you should watch some YouTube videos to get an idea of what to expect... I don't use it to totally heat the barn/shop but to knock the chill off... its 24x60 and keeps working conditions OK,, the 55 gal drum has a good draft and the door seals nicely.
Great alternative to purchasing a more expensive stove.
I started out with a Vogelzang Highlander and it didn't heat well , even with he blower running. Decided to give the Barrel stove kit a try. Installed it on a 30 gallon barrel. The kit is built for a 55 gallon. It will fit a 30, but not perfect. The legs dont quite fit flush to the barrel, had to make spacers. No big deal.
All other parts fit well enough. I used Permatex 81878 Ultra Copper Maximum Temperature RTV Silicone Gasket Maker to seal the door and the other parts. This helps a lot to keep the stove air tight. I also drilled 2 more holes and added 2 more bolts on the front door just above the bottom vent to provide a better fit to the barrel. I also added lock washers to all the bolts to help keep them tight.
After the first long outside burn to remove all the old paint and oil residue inside the barrel, I used a high temp flat black engine paint ( 2000 degree) to paint the stove. I painted everything including the front door with 2 coats.
Had to replace the plastic knobs for the doors because they are cheap and the bottom one striped by the second day. ( maybe I didnt install them properly, who knows) I used regular wooden kitchen drawer knobs from Lowes ( $1.57 for a pack of 2) and replaced the plastic ones. They are much better than the plastic.
After 10 + burns no lose bolts except the bolt holding the handle on the main door. ( probably gets lose because of constant use)
Overall the barrel stove is great. Much more heat than the Highlander and you can put logs up to 30" into it and let it burn all night. With properly seasoned wood and the correct air flow you can get 8+ hours out of a full stove. I will purchase this kit again and try it on a 55 gallon barrel next time. Over all I give this kit a "A"
Good stove if you can rework its flaws
Trevor is right on the money, and neither Robert's representatives nor Vogelzang will admit it. The previous-model flue collar shown in Robert's video allows the flue lower MALE END to be inserted INTO the collar, as it should be (and as Robert warns in his response to Trevor). The collar shipped with this kit now, and as shown in the photos for the listing, is CLEARLY designed for the larger (female) end of the flue to go AROUND it. Its inside diameter is only 5 1/2", and no matter what Northline or Vogelzang say, there is no acceptable way to force a 6" diameter flue into a 5 1/2" hole by crimping it. You would end up with an ugly, super-leaky, unstable joint, and to make it worse, the crimped end would prevent the damper from turning. Northline and Vogelzang deny that there is an issue. I had to spend more $$$ to get the appropriate female flue collar, which Northline does sell, but the shipping is more than the collar. Hint: Go to your local farm supply and buy a double-barrel kit, for less money, which includes a nice female collar.
Other than that, the intake dampers as shipped are kind of a fail (and Dell's comment is relevant here). The castings are poor, need to be filed or ground down in spots to allow them to turn properly, and need quite a bit of filing inside the triangle-shaped openings to align with those on the lower door (use a coarse 1/4" round file with the parts in a vise). Then you'll want to adjust their screws carefully as you re-install them, trying to achieve a bit of drag without binding. They are not balanced, so if they're loose they will not hold the setting you want (safety alert). Vogelzang should replace these with the rotary draft knobs as used on Logwood and other stoves, which work much better. They're available online for about $8 each, I would swap them out but all these stove companies (which seem to be under the same umbrella corp) want $25 shipping no matter how small or light the part.
Gary makes good points about the latch knobs. I put silicone sealer in the threads when I attached the bakelite ball-knobs to the latch, so they shouldn't ever loosen. However, the knobs are too small. You have to be careful to not let your fingers go past the small knob or you'll get a quick burn on the cast-iron latch. The sheet metal latch strikes are way too thin... someday I'll make heavier ones, but for now they do barely get the job done.
Because I am an experienced stove builder/installer/machinist, I ended up with a very nice stove using this kit. It is a quality design, once its shortcomings are overcome.
Door handle latch handle knobs
Stove works great, however the I'm not happy with the non metallic door latch handle latch knobs.
I have only used this stove for a couple of days and both door handle latch knobs keep loosening up. The upper door latch knob just became stripped and fell off on the floor.
I'm going to fabricate a metal door handle latch knob to replace that knob and no doubt will be forced to do the same with the bottom ash door handle latch knob in the near future.
Those door handle latch knobs are cheaply and poorly designed which is another reason companies should be using American labor instead of outsourcing products such as this one to China.
Love my barrel stove! I assembeld a barrel stove for my patio and i couldn't be happier. Built another to take camping, all the heat needed but with two sections of pipe all the smoke is out of our eyes and dont go to bed smelling like a camp fire.
Nice Kit, Poor Instructions
Hi, just assembled this kit, very nice ki,t works great. But had to call Vogelzang because instructions were vague and illustrations showed the standard kit, not the Deluxe kit. Otherwise nice product.
One terrible flaw
I've been heating my house with this kit going on three years now. The problem is with dripping creosote. The stovepipe flange is designed so that female end (non-crimped) goes on the flange first. Stovepipes are suppose to be installed with the male end (crimped) facing down so that the creosote drips back into the stove and doesn't run down the outside of the pipe and subsequently burn off creating a nasty smell. You cannot insert the male end into the flange because its opening is too small. Bottom line is that the flange is made only for the female end which is just dumb because that's not how stovepipes work. Other than the flange I do enjoy this stove and try my best not to suffocate it too much and create creosote. Oh, and the gasket started falling out within a week of using it but that was not a terribly difficult fix.
Moderator Comment: Trevor, I agree that the pipe flange is a bit small. However, I have been able to get the male end into the pipe adapter. Brands of pipe vary a bit in their dimensions so one thing you could do is to crimp the pipe (male end) more than it already is. We have a tool for that at http://www.northlineexpress.com/stove-pipe-crimper.html Needle nose pliers also work ok in a pinch. Clamp the pipe with the pliers and give it a twist. You really should remove the pipe and turn it around so the crimped ends are all facing down otherwise you will have a mess and a fire hazard....Robert.
Reviewer: Dell Guthrie
This unit works pretty well. The draft, however, was not designed to allow enough air into the combustion chamber. It works best with the door partly open, increasing the air supply. It's pretty hard to find a happy medium, but with some experimentation, you can find the draft amount you need. The damper is mostly useless without enough draft to the fire.
I have modified mine so I can keep the lower door closed, eliminating the possibility of coals falling onto the floor in front.
Ordering my Deluxe barrel stove kit was easy and it was delivered without any problems. I would definitly order from you again
Reviewer: Bill Pallan
excellent way to heat my garage.
Bought this and the double barrel kit as well. Wow! What heat output. Very pleased. Was quick to assemble with a few basic tools.
I got this for my garage and it's awesome. It's very easy to get going and it heats the building quickly. It was also very easy to put together. On top of this, the level of customer service I received from Northline staff was excellent. If you can get hold of free 55 gal drums try a local large scale bakery, this well worth the money, but definately spring for the double barrel adaptor kit too. It makes for a more efficent stove.
Reviewer: Paul Weber
The instructions could have had some tips on how to center the flue and keep the barrel straight when marking for cut outs. Otherwise, this kit works ok.
The perfect door for my fuel oil tank maple syrup evaporator.
Reviewer: Florence L. Snover
After some research on the product and comparing prices, I found your prices to be the best and the web site was very user friendly. Service and receiving of the product was great! The Vogelzang Kit was everything that it was suppose to be and is in use now! If ever needed again, I would purchase another. I check your site out for future purchases! Thanks
Great value for the money fits nicely and is real quality. You won't be disappointed.
works great,legs could be taller,all in all good deal, & puts out lots of heat.
Building the wood stove with your kit was great.I have it installed and it works great. I did make some alterations that made it much better.
good product for the money
Works fairly well for its intended purpose. Following the directions you do not get a good seal and closing all of the vents the stove still burns too fast. When I change it out I will add an additional seal.
We had one just like this one for over
15 years. The barrel just got wore out so thought we would get a new stove kit. Everything was great with price, and shipping. Thanks so much so glad we found you...
not perfect, but it works well. the gasketed door is nice. i put it on a pot belly barrel so the legs and chimney did not fit perfectly. it should fit fine a a regular barrel.
Questions on Vogelzang Deluxe Airtight Barrel Wood Stove Kit
- From just wandering at 11/11/2012 5:47 PM
- what if you put this barrel on the vertical and on a steel plate with the door on the side and flatted a portion of the barrel to accept the door. Would this be doable???
- That would not be a proper installation. The barrel stove kits are made to be installed on the ends of the barrels.
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- From cory at 12/9/2012 1:57 PM
- are the air tight kits safe enough to burn in your home?
- Barrel Stove Kits are a great way to heat a large area quickly and inexpensively and a popular alternative to heating with wood stoves. They are ideal for heating all types of spaces like garages, cabins, tents, workshops and more. As long as you vent this properly and follow the clearance to combustibles. The Barrel stove kits can be put anywhere a wood stove would be aloud to go.
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- From Terry L. Miller at 9/16/2014 9:46 PM
- The Air Vent, flue adapter and actual door unit does it come with or can you order or is it needed, a gasket? Since those 3 items will be metal to metal?
- Hello Terry, Thank you for your recent email. The Vogelzang deluxe air tight barrel stove kit does not require any gaskets. For the flue outlet and the installation of the door you can use furnace cement to achieve a good seal, item code 5RU-FSC32. This is ready-mixed, all-purpose, high-temperature resistant cement that seals joints and cracks in metal and fills gaps between masonry and metal. This will help prevent air and gas leaks in flue and chimney joints, ash pit doors & gasketing etc. Withstands temperatures over 2700 Degrees F heavy consistency. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact Northline Express again. Sincerely, Linda Kopischka Customer Service Representative 9195 N Cut Rd Roscommon MI, 48653 1-989-821-7040 Toll Free: 1-866-667-8454 Fax: 989-821-7203
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